View Full Version : 3 Murders in 24 hours?!
jf261398
07-20-2007, 02:22 PM
Three people were killed early Sunday morning (7/15/07) in unrelated shootings in Cleveland, and another person is being treated at MetroHealth Medical Center for stab and gunshot wounds.
Cleveland is on track for another record-setting deadly year, after a bloody weekend pushed the city's unofficial homicide rate to 71.
If slayings continue at this rate, more than 130 people will have died violently by year's end -- beating last year's 119 homicides.
This weekend's bloodshed comes less than two weeks after one of the deadliest 24 hours in recent memory -- July 4-5 when 11 people were shot and six died.
Something needs to change in Cleveland - education, income, social morals.....or darker days will be coming.
christ_jewells11
07-29-2007, 07:31 PM
Maybe concealed carry laws... It seemed to help a preacher nab (http://www.myspace.com/christ)a car theft suspect in Taft, CA. I can't recall the exact blog, but i think it was the second to last that i posted the actually article and commentary in.
jspain
07-30-2007, 02:20 PM
why would we want to have a conceal and carry law like the rednecks in Texas, all that would do is put more guns in trigger happy people's hands. It seems these days people are almost looking for any excuse to shoot someone, and having a gun readily at their side would make it a whole hell of a lot easier.
christ_jewells11
07-30-2007, 05:40 PM
Having a gun doesn't mean you'll be using it offensively. Look at Switzerland. They allow their people to have assault rifles and their gun crime is so low that they hardly have any books to keep on it. Assuming that people will use guns for ill and hence not allowing people to carry them is contrary to the constitution and ignorant of evidence. After all, no one will be able to stop the criminal from getting the gun to commit the mugging or muder in the first place.. or the Virginia Tech Massacre... or 9/11. But imagine if only 1 or 2 passengers on that plane or in that classroom or as a good samaritan on the street who witnesses a mugging or murder in progress... would the possibility (but not certainty) of losing the one life of the criminal outweigh the thousands of lives in a worst-case scenario???
jspain
07-31-2007, 12:26 PM
Well another fatal shooting last night outside a McDonalds in Lorain, yeah people should be allowed to carry guns. That way anytime someone gets upset like the killer did in this case and they shoot someone, at least they won't be committing another crime by carrying a weapon
christ_jewells11
08-02-2007, 09:50 PM
""When there is mutual fear, men think twice before they make aggression upon one another." - Hermocrates of Syracuse
It's interesting that people would feel bad and loath shootings and violence, but prefer to push of the responsibility for self defense into the hands of someone who is under the control of a bottom line. Again, look at facts
tm53chev
03-23-2009, 07:38 PM
The CCW law allows law abiding citizens to protect themselves from the animals on the street looking for a victim to take advantage of. Criminals use any weapon, guns included to help commit their criminal activity. Laws don't protect people, morality does. Amoral people do as they please, not even prison prevents criminals from commiting their crimes. The death penality does not keep people from being killed. Our society is sick, deviants take advantage of our childrern, criminals don't fear the death penality, only being caught but even then they know they might get off or get a lenient sentance. The CCW law at least allows law abiding citizens a level playing field and a way to protect themselves if need be. I know talking to anti gun people is like talking to a wall, they think the police and the law will protect them and theirs. So call the police if you think you have the time to wait for them to get to you, I for one will protect myself when and if necessary. I will pray for you, I understand that helps sometime.
vicki
07-01-2009, 01:37 PM
why would we want to have a conceal and carry law like the rednecks in Texas, all that would do is put more guns in trigger happy people's hands. It seems these days people are almost looking for any excuse to shoot someone, and having a gun readily at their side would make it a whole hell of a lot easier.
We're not all rednecks in Texas...some of us used to be hillbillies from Lorain. :p
(Just teasin')
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